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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 4, 2013 9:08:02 GMT -5
My question is :
If they are such "experts" then why did they get killed?
Three storm chasers killed by a tornado near Oklahoma City last week were not risk-takers or thrill-seekers, but experienced researchers dedicated to advancing the field of meteorology, family and colleagues said Sunday.
Tim Samaras, 54, was well-respected in the meteorological community and widely considered a leader in tornado research and data collection, experts said.
He died along with his 24-year-old son, Paul Samaras, and partner Carl Young, 45, while tracking an EF-3 tornado that struck the Oklahoma City suburb of El Reno on Friday evening. The three reportedly were trapped in their car when the twister turned toward them.
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Post by muffin on Jun 4, 2013 9:09:37 GMT -5
.....I always wondered what would happen if you caught one.  |
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Post by Zed on Jun 4, 2013 9:20:57 GMT -5
My question is : If they are such "experts" then why did they get killed? That's like saying if 'Gus' Grissom was such a good astronaut, why did he die in a launch pad fire. |
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Post by rule62 on Jun 4, 2013 10:06:00 GMT -5
NASCAR drivers are experts too. But sometimes they get killed.
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Post by jamie on Jun 4, 2013 13:53:32 GMT -5
Tornado was upset. It got tired of being chased. It started chasing them and caught them. The Chasing Tornado got a bigger bam bam then the tornado chasers.
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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 4, 2013 16:17:25 GMT -5
My question is : If they are such "experts" then why did they get killed? That's like saying if 'Gus' Grissom was such a good astronaut, why did he die in a launch pad fire. Not very good comparison,Grissom tragedy was an accident he had no choice.These guys didn't HAVE to go in the tornadoes path they had a choice. |
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Post by rule62 on Jun 4, 2013 16:44:47 GMT -5
That's like saying if 'Gus' Grissom was such a good astronaut, why did he die in a launch pad fire. Not very good comparison,Grissom tragedy was an accident he had no choice.These guys didn't HAVE to go in the tornadoes path they had a choice. They didn't go into the tornado's path. They thought they were observing it from a safe distance; but the tornado made an abrupt turn, almost 90 degrees, and they were trapped. |
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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 4, 2013 18:58:29 GMT -5
Not very good comparison,Grissom tragedy was an accident he had no choice.These guys didn't HAVE to go in the tornadoes path they had a choice. They didn't go into the tornado's path. They thought they were observing it from a safe distance; but the tornado made an abrupt turn, almost 90 degrees, and they were trapped. |
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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 4, 2013 19:02:09 GMT -5
Thats my point,"they thought". These guys are long term experts on tornadoes so they should have known better.
So you're saying this is the first time a tornado made an abrupt turn that nobody thought it could do?
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Post by rule62 on Jun 4, 2013 19:12:12 GMT -5
Thats my point,"they thought". These guys are long term experts on tornadoes so they should have known better. So you're saying this is the first time a tornado made an abrupted turn that nobody thought it could do? I don't know how often tornadoes abruptly turn. I know they are unpredictable. It was also the first time anybody anywhere had seen a tornado that was more than 2 1/2 miles wide. It was twice the width of the Moore tornado a week earlier. These guys had 30 years experience. They were experts, who contributed a great deal, over the years, to the knowledge of tornadoes. It was a tragedy, and the scientific community has lost three knowledgeable contributors. I'm not going to cheapen it by second guessing what they should or shouldn't have known or done. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 4, 2013 20:18:42 GMT -5
That's like saying if 'Gus' Grissom was such a good astronaut, why did he die in a launch pad fire. Not very good comparison,Grissom tragedy was an accident he had no choice.These guys didn't HAVE to go in the tornadoes path they had a choice. Gus could have chosen to do something different with his life. He chose the job knowing the dangers, just like the storm chasers chose their job. Percentage wise I believe storm chasers have fewer casualties than astronauts. Catastrophic life threatening incidents happened in the space industry which Gus was quite aware of. The dangers of storm chasing was well known to the storm chasers as well. Seems like a good comparison to me. |
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Post by rule62 on Jun 7, 2013 7:12:20 GMT -5
My question is : If they are such "experts" then why did they get killed? Three storm chasers killed by a tornado near Oklahoma City last week were not risk-takers or thrill-seekers, but experienced researchers dedicated to advancing the field of meteorology, family and colleagues said Sunday. Tim Samaras, 54, was well-respected in the meteorological community and widely considered a leader in tornado research and data collection, experts said. He died along with his 24-year-old son, Paul Samaras, and partner Carl Young, 45, while tracking an EF-3 tornado that struck the Oklahoma City suburb of El Reno on Friday evening. The three reportedly were trapped in their car when the twister turned toward them. Why is it you and your buddies view me as negative when you yourself never,ever have something positive to say? Different jobs have different degrees of a chance of something bad happening. Should cops or firefighters never get killed because they are "experts" and know exactly what is going to happen every time? They knew the risks and chose to love their job anyway, so why do you feel they need to chastise dead men? The only people Davey ever seems to be capable of showing any compassion for, in death, are military personnel. Yet, we have the most highly trained military in the world, with equipment and intelligence second to none. Our military people are experts; no question. They volunteer for the job. But still, occasionally, lives are lost, due to actions from fighters from third world countries, dressed in goat skins, using homemade weapons. Intelligence fails. People's judgement fails. Accidents happen. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 7, 2013 8:54:40 GMT -5
Why is it you and your buddies view me as negative when you yourself never,ever have something positive to say? Different jobs have different degrees of a chance of something bad happening. Should cops or firefighters never get killed because they are "experts" and know exactly what is going to happen every time? They knew the risks and chose to love their job anyway, so why do you feel they need to chastise dead men? The only people Davey ever seems to be capable of showing any compassion for, in death, are military personnel. Yet, we have the most highly trained military in the world, with equipment and intelligence second to none. Our military people are experts; no question. They volunteer for the job. But still, occasionally, lives are lost, due to actions from fighters from third world countries, dressed in goat skins, using homemade weapons. Intelligence fails. People's judgement fails. Accidents happen. yep |
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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 7, 2013 17:48:37 GMT -5
Re:The only people Davey ever seems to be capable of showing any compassion for, in death, are military personnel.
When you work along side of those wounded warriors ,for 15 years, that later die from their horrible wounds make them special to have more compassion for. Yup Im guilty for it.
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Post by DaveyJones on Jun 7, 2013 17:50:54 GMT -5
re:Why is it you and your buddies view me as negative when you yourself never,ever have something positive to say?
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.
Isaac Asimov
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